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/review me
(Beginning review: Thu Oct 27 21:28:13 1994 EDT)
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# -> (21:28) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Want to pick up tomorrow?
# 
# -> (21:28) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - umm... how many people are going to _not_ go idle?  it may be time to 
# - simply end class for tonight...
# 
# -> (21:28) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - yes..
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# -> (21:28) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - tomorrow that is..
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# -> (21:28) From Ceej [ learning ], to MOO:
# - well, I'm all happy to keep going, but if I'm the only one it seems a bit 
# - silly.
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# -> (21:28) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Okay. Next time try to have X. :)
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# -> (21:28) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - tomorrow morning I'll be around.... not tomororw nite...
# 
# -> (21:29) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# -  q-:
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# -> (21:29) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  anyone else for the morning?
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# -> (21:29) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - yes..definitely need a 70line emacs window! 
# 
# -> (21:29) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - i'll be on all day
# 
# -> (21:29) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Or most people want evening?
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# -> (21:29) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - starting at 0700! 
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# -> (21:29) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - does this mean Harq is buying us all x-terminals?
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# -> (21:29) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - hah
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# -> (21:29) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  :)
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# -> (21:29) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - I'll be on by 0800 if all goes well...
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# -> (21:29) From Ceej [ learning ], to MOO:
# - Um, I doubt I'll be around before noon.
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# -> (21:30) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  By noon the Net won't be worth it. :)
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# -> (21:30) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'll do a walk through starting at 8:30am and then again at 5:30pm
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# -> (21:30) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  How does that sound?
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# -> (21:31) From wintermute [brb], to MOO:
# - sounds good..maybe the logs can be mangled enuf to make some kind of a 
# - tutorial too..
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# -> (21:31) From Ceej [ learning ], to MOO:
# - works for me. someone remind me on rpi-lily..
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# -> (21:31) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - sounds good to me!
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# -> (21:31) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay
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# -> (21:32) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - see you in the morning... time to do panix-lily stuff, then shower and 
# - bed...
# 
# -> (21:33) From Harq al-Ada [class dismissed], to MOO:
# -  See you all then (whichever time)
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# -> (22:54) From Ceej [ more testing ], to MOO:
# - ?lshelp -l blurb
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# -> (22:54) From Ceej [ more testing ], to MOO:
# - ?lshelp -l lurb
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# -> (23:00) From Ceej [ more testing ], to MOO:
# - whuh
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# -> (23:03) From bp, to MOO:
# - i'm taking the class from earlier this evening now, by going through the 
# - review.
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# -> (23:28) From Phil [ taking tiger mountain ], to MOO:
# - hmm, might i say (this may have been brought up already) that /review 
# - seems a tad fucked? when i did /review moo i saw "# *** Phil is now a 
# - member of MOO ***" 8 times.
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# -> (08:20) From bp, to MOO:
# - so all these people in the discussion are going to come back to a class in 
# - progress or already over.
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# -> (08:20) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - morning, atul..
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# -> (08:21) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'm showing Gordon the basics of command processing.
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# -> (08:21) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  grab #0:do_command  C-c C-v #0:do_command
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# -> (08:21) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Are you going to use the pad, bp?
# 
# -> (08:22) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I could install the pad here, if need be... right now I'm in the emacs 
# - client...
# 
# -> (08:22) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The pad is in X, do you have X?
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# -> (08:22) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - oops... I take it back, then... forget the pad... panix doesn't support 
# - X...
# 
# -> (08:23) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Do you each have that code up?
# 
# -> (08:23) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - by the way, panix-lily is up and running... of course, right now, I'm the 
# - only user... gonna add a few others today, and hopefully announce it to 
# - the panix public on Monday...
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# -> (08:23) From bp, to MOO:
# - yeah I'm planning on using the pad, but i'm running lclient right now.
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# -> (08:24) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I've got it up... and the code is, too...
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# -> (08:24) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Ouch. Wait a little bit, Gordon.
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# -> (08:24) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  We've got a fairly major review bug we want to patch. :)
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# -> (08:24) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'll send you a patch you can apply by hand by the end of the day
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# -> (08:24) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  >-)
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# -> (08:24) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - oh, yeah... those multiple attach things...
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# -> (08:24) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - um...
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# -> (08:25) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Can you get in an editor for this, atul?
# 
# -> (08:25) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - is that "you'll send me the patch by the end of the day" or "I should be 
# - skillful enough to apply it, by the end of the day"?
# 
# -> (08:25) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'm about ready to start.
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# -> (08:25) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  A moron could apply the patch. :)
# 
# -> (08:25) From bp, to MOO:
# - you mean like run emacs side by side?
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# -> (08:25) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Morning Nance.
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# -> (08:25) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - morning, nance...  (:
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# -> (08:26) From Nance, to MOO:
# - morning
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# -> (08:26) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'll be teaching as if everyone was using emacs, but use what you like
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# -> (08:26) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You want to take the class, Nance?
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# -> (08:26) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - umm, Chrisitan... sometimes I can be sub-moronic...
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# -> (08:26) From Nance, to MOO:
# - I'll just audit it if you dont mind
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# -> (08:26) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Trust me, the patch is easy. You'll just have to paste it in via lclient.
# 
# -> (08:26) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Funny. Everyone just wants to audit. :) :)
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# -> (08:26) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I assume you'll give me step by step instructions?  (:
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# -> (08:27) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  :)
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# -> (08:27) From bp, to MOO:
# - well I'll use emacs today so that I can not worry about my delete/control-h
# - problems.
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# -> (08:27) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Shout when you are ready bp.
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# -> (08:28) From Nance, to MOO:
# - I can't stay and chat... gotta get to work.   I might even have a meeting 
# - as soon as I get in
# 
# -> (08:28) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Are you both comfortable picking things up where we left off, or is there 
# - something you want me to recover?
# 
# -> (08:28) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - (and try to avoid being too unclear... yesterday's screwup with me 
# - installing the emacs client was a result of ebing told to put the -init 
# - file into .mud - which I assumed was to be a directory, when in fact 
# - wintermute and achorrath meant for me to rename it...
# 
# -> (08:28) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - ummm, a quick review might be in order...
# 
# -> (08:29) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - and we might want to wait another 5 minutes... it's still early...
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# -> (08:30) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. I'll get some breakfast tea and a muffin and brb
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# -> (08:30) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - okay.. gonna do some stuff here...
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# -> (08:31) From bp, to MOO:
# - I am ready.
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# -> (08:32) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - harq's getting breakfast, atul..
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# -> (08:36) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. Who is really taking the class right now? :)
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# -> (08:36) From bp, to MOO:
# - *raises hand*
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# -> (08:37) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - *raises hand*
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# -> (08:37) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - can I have 2 more minutes, tho.?
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# -> (08:37) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Sure.
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# -> (08:38) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. two watchers and two learners. :)
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# -> (08:39) From Darkwind [not here], to MOO:
# - And I don't have emacs or Pad availible at the moment, so I will be a 
# - serious lurker.
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# -> (08:40) From bp, to MOO:
# - I am not sure what you plan on covering today, Harq, but I basically 
# - didn't get past when you were covering making your own verb.
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# -> (08:40) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - Okay... I'm set up on the emacs client, and have the html MOO ProgMan up
# 
# -> (08:40) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - in another screen... (-<
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# -> (08:41) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I'm in about the same boat as you, atul...
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# -> (08:41) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. I'll start from the begining and move quickly to verbs
# 
# -> (08:41) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - go for it... (:
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# >> (08:42) Private message from Harq al-Ada:
# -  Yes. Though my log from atomic types got fucked so I don't have any of 
# - the begining stuff
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# -> (08:42) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - actually - quick emacs question first...
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# -> (08:42) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  sure
# 
# >> (08:43) Private message from Harq al-Ada:
# -  okay. I'll work this into a tutorial and send it to you.
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# -> (08:43) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - how can I make the top section of the split-screen larger... don't need 
# - quite as much space in the lower split....
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# -> (08:43) From bp, to MOO:
# - Nance and Dark can still execute many of the "@" commands if they're 
# - playing at home with lclient.
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# -> (08:43) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  It won't work for the long term sine emacs resplits the window.
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# -> (08:43) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - oh... forget it then...
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# -> (08:44) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - regardless, this is alot better than last night...
# 
# -> (08:44) From Darkwind [not here], to MOO:
# - I'm setting up emacs on another machine at the momet...rebinding keys and 
# - stuff.
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# -> (08:45) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  gack
# *** (08:45) Darkwind [not here] has detached ***
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# -> (08:46) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Okay.
# *** (08:46) Darkwind has reattached ***
# 
# -> (08:46) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Okay. First MOO is divided into several atomic types:  numbers, strings, 
# - lists, and objects.
# 
# >> (08:47) Private message from Prisoner:
# - hi
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# -> (08:47) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  numbers have all the common operations available for them +, -, /, *, and 
# - % (modulo)
# 
# -> (08:48) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  strings have concatenation with +  "foo"+"bar" is "foobar"
# 
# -> (08:48) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  strings alaso use a handy array reference notation  "foobar"[1..2] is "fo"
# 
# -> (08:49) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Feel free to try out any of these examples using @eval
# 
# -> (08:49) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - just did.. cool.. (:
# 
# -> (08:49) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  For example  @eval "foo"+"bar"
# *** (08:49) Shiva has entered lily ***
# *** (08:49) Shiva has rejoined newuser ***
# *** (08:49) Shiva is now a member of MOO ***
# 
# -> (08:50) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  lists are one of the most commonly used MOO types in lily, a list would 
# - be  {1,2,3}
# 
# -> (08:50) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  lists can be joined with the @ operator. it gives you all the members of 
# - a list    {@{1,2},@{3,4}} is {1,2,3,4}   try it with @eval
# 
# -> (08:51) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You can also use the array notation  {1,2,3}[2] is 2
# 
# -> (08:51) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - kewl!
# 
# -> (08:52) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  multiple indexes are possible with lists in lists  {1, {2,3}, 4}[2][1] is 
# - 2
# 
# -> (08:52) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - (Lists can also be a mix of numbers and strings it seems.)
# 
# -> (08:52) From bp, to MOO:
# - @eval "{@{1,2},@{3,4}}"  ?
# 
# -> (08:52) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You will notice that indexing begins from 1 like pascal, not 0 like C
# 
# -> (08:52) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  lists can be a mis of lists, objects, numbers, and strings
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# -> (08:52) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  mis == mix
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# -> (08:53) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Yes, atul
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# -> (08:53) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Drop the "s though
# *** (08:53) Shiva has changed their blurb to [%logging this class for review] ***
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# -> (08:53) From bp, to MOO:
# - ah hah
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# -> (08:53) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Any limit to how far lists can be nested?
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# -> (08:54) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - whoops! strings require quotes?
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# -> (08:54) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  strings require quotes, there is no practical limit, darkwind
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# -> (08:54) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The real power of a list will be obvious with this next example
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# -> (08:55) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - kewl - and you can nest to get a character in a strin in a list!
# *** (08:55) Shiva has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# 
# -> (08:56) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @eval 6 in {2,3,4,6,8,9}
# 
# -> (08:56) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  sigh here goes the Net
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# -> (08:56) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - huh?  I get 4
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# -> (08:56) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Right. 6 is in position 4 in the list
# 
# -> (08:56) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  try a number that isn't in the list
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# -> (08:57) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - oh, duh...
# 
# -> (08:57) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You will get 0 indicating the value wasn't found
# 
# -> (08:58) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  this kind of list lookup is very fast since lists are hash tables inside 
# - moo. so if you want to match a whole keyword try  @eval "all" in {"all","he
# - re","away","detach"}
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# -> (08:58) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Any way to search for an item in a nested list quickly?
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# -> (08:58) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  No.
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# -> (08:58) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You would need to know which sublist or use a for loop
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# -> (08:59) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Okaydoke.
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# -> (08:59) From bp, to MOO:
# - its apparently case insensitive too.
# 
# -> (08:59) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - MOO is case-insensitive...
# 
# -> (08:59) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Yes. All comparisons are case insensitive
# 
# -> (09:00) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Only through crypt() and strcmp() can get you case sensitivity
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# -> (09:00) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  There is also a defined list {} the empty list
# 
# -> (09:01) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - that must've simplified sendlist name matching...
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# -> (09:01) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  No. It sisn't. :)
# 
# -> (09:01) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  didn't I mean
# 
# -> (09:01) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  That only matches whole names. No one uses whole names. :)
# 
# -> (09:01) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I meant the lack of case sensitivity... but okay...
# 
# -> (09:02) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  People comfortables with lists?
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# -> (09:02) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I use whole names - courtesy of tabkey... (:
# 
# -> (09:02) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  True. :)
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# -> (09:02) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I'm okay with everything so far...
# 
# -> (09:03) From bp, to MOO:
# - quick Question before we proceed.
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# -> (09:03) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  shoot
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# -> (09:03) From bp, to MOO:
# - If i did "@eval {1, {2,3}, 4}[2..3]" why do I get what I get?
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# -> (09:04) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You got a list containing "{{2, 3}, 4}" because that is items 2 and 3
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# -> (09:04) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I assume you got "{2,3}, 4"  ???
# 
# -> (09:04) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You got a list because more than one item was involved. If you did [2] 
# - only you would get {2,3} not {{2,3}}
# 
# -> (09:05) From bp, to MOO:
# - okay, i understand.
# 
# -> (09:05) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. Lets move on to objects. Objects are the core of the MOO programming
# - system. They are referenced by #objectnumber and hold verbs and properities
# - and implement single inheritence
# 
# -> (09:05) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Just to state the relative obvious (I think), lists, arrays and strings 
# - are all stored and managed in the same way.  so "abc" = {"a","b","c"}, yes?
# 
# -> (09:05) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  No.
# 
# -> (09:05) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - (then you can go on)
# 
# -> (09:05) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  strings are much more atomix than lists
# 
# -> (09:06) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Okaydoke.
# 
# -> (09:06) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - but for our purposes, ids there a reason to worry about the atomicity of 
# - strings?
# 
# -> (09:06) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  a string can be treated like a list throught he array notation, but not 
# - with 'in or @ or any of the other str
# 
# -> (09:06) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Not really.
# 
# -> (09:06) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Ahhh, okay.  Got it.
# 
# -> (09:06) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Just don't try to use in and @ on them. :)
# 
# -> (09:07) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - well, sure... okay... (:
# 
# -> (09:07) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. Lets move on to objects. Objects are the core of the MOO programming
# - system. They are referenced by #objectnumber and hold verbs and properities
# - and implement single inheritence
# 
# -> (09:07) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - single or simple?
# 
# -> (09:07) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The base object on the system is #0
# 
# -> (09:07) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  huh?
# 
# -> (09:07) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  single inheritence
# 
# -> (09:07) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - inheritance...
# 
# -> (09:08) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - okay...
# 
# -> (09:08) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - (net's definitely slowing...)
# 
# -> (09:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  properties are the data members of an object and are referenced by 
# - #objnum.property
# 
# -> (09:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  . is the property separator.
# 
# -> (09:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  look at the discs property of #0 
# 
# -> (09:10) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - using @show or @eval ?
# 
# -> (09:10) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @eval #0.discs
# 
# -> (09:10) From bp, to MOO:
# - a list of all the discussion objects.
# 
# -> (09:10) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Either is okay
# 
# -> (09:10) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You can imagine that keeping track of the object numbers for everything 
# - would become burden some. So MOO retains the '$' character to provide 
# - immediate access to properties in #0
# 
# -> (09:10) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  try @eval $discs
# 
# -> (09:12) From bp, to MOO:
# - nifty.
# 
# -> (09:12) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Okay. So, any property in #0 can be grabbed with $
# 
# -> (09:12) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - quick diversion - is the only difference between @show and @eval on a 
# - property that @show also gives ownership and permission, while @eval gives 
# - just the value?
# 
# -> (09:12) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Try to look at ta property of a $ property
# 
# -> (09:12) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  yes
# 
# -> (09:12) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - @eval properties(#0) is useful.
# 
# -> (09:13) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  try @eval $lily_utils.active_states
# 
# -> (09:14) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  that is the same as @eval #0.lily_utils.active_states
# 
# -> (09:14) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - ahh... $welcome_message... that'll be a useful one to be able to change... 
# - (:
# 
# -> (09:14) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The most common references you will see in the code are $player, $disc, 
# - $lily_utils, and $list_utils
# 
# -> (09:15) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  to see all of the properties of an object use @eval properties(#objnum)
# *** (09:16) 12bit has entered lily ***
# *** (09:17) 12bit has detached ***
# 
# -> (09:17) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  people awake out there? :)
# 
# -> (09:17) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - yup... playing with eval'ing properties...
# 
# -> (09:18) From bp, to MOO:
# - oh yeah, ditto.
# 
# -> (09:18) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. My Net just slowed down here for a moment.
# 
# -> (09:19) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I'm going to make a property on the $player (the generic player object 
# - from which all of us inherit).
# 
# -> (09:19) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - okay...
# 
# -> (09:19) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  try to look at it with @eval $player.class
# 
# -> (09:20) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You can look at your copy of it with @eval player.class    (player is 
# - you, $player is the parent object)
# 
# -> (09:21) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I used the command @property $player.class "8:30am" "rwc" #6
# 
# -> (09:21) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  rwc  is 'read', 'write', and 'children can change';  #6 is the owner (#6 
# - is the number of $player
# 
# -> (09:22) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - is the only way to find out parents or children to use the parent and 
# - children commands, or are they available somewhere in the object?
# 
# -> (09:22) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The 'c' bit allows you to alter _your_ COPY of the property
# 
# -> (09:22) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You use the parent and children commands
# 
# -> (09:22) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @eval parent(object)
# 
# -> (09:22) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  and @eval children(objnum)
# 
# -> (09:23) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - ok
# 
# -> (09:23) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - ok
# 
# -> (09:23) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - sorry about that...
# 
# -> (09:23) From bp, to MOO:
# - I'm still with you.
# 
# -> (09:23) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Go ahead and use @eval to modify your _copy_ of the class property    
# - @eval player.class="harq's copy"   is what I did
# 
# -> (09:24) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Hmm...i don't recommend @eval children (#6) :-)
# 
# -> (09:27) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Now we are going to take a look at verbs to help us understand properties 
# - better
# 
# -> (09:27) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - okay...
# 
# -> (09:27) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  verbs are stored with the object as well and use : as a delimiter instead 
# - of .
# 
# -> (09:28) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @list $player:class  will show the verb we are working with, but you will 
# - want to bring it up in emacs with C-c C-v $player:class
# 
# -> (09:29) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  does everyone have the verb up?
# 
# -> (09:29) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - yup...
# 
# -> (09:30) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - yes
# 
# -> (09:31) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  call it with @eval player:class()
# 
# -> (09:31) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  then use @eval to change the type of _you_ copy of the class property and 
# - call it again
# 
# -> (09:31) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  It will detect the -type_ of the class property and let you know.
# 
# -> (09:32) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The code example uses the 'typeof()' builtin to detach the type of the 
# - property at runtime.
# 
# -> (09:33) From bp, to MOO:
# - i'm all set with it, i just discovered you have to put a string in quotes.
# 
# -> (09:34) From bp, to MOO:
# - will it ever get to the "what did you make?" section of the code?
# 
# -> (09:34) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Nope. :)
# 
# -> (09:34) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Not unless the server adds a new type. :)
# 
# -> (09:34) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - kewl... got it... (:
# 
# -> (09:35) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  So, it is pretty easy to see how types and properties and verbs are 
# - working otgether. Now lets move on to verbs themselves and control 
# - structures
# 
# -> (09:35) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - so you can have a verb with the same name as a property... kewl..
# 
# -> (09:36) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  The most primitive control structure is the if, it  has all the familar C 
# - conditionals available to it  ||, &&, !, ==, !=, >=m <= 
# 
# -> (09:37) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  if (!(player.state in {"here","away"}))   would check if the value of 
# - player.state property is not in the given list.
# 
# -> (09:38) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  You also have if ... elseif ... else ... endif available to you just as 
# - we see in the example verb
# 
# -> (09:38) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  are people pretty clear on that?
# *** (09:38) wintermute has reattached ***
# 
# -> (09:39) From bp, to MOO:
# - Yes.
# 
# -> (09:39) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - yup...
# 
# -> (09:40) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  okay. Lets all make our own versb to work with (some of you may already 
# - have them from lst night)
# 
# -> (09:40) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - go for it... (:
# 
# -> (09:40) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @verb myobj:class "rdx" #6
# 
# -> (09:40) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - who all are actually following it?
# 
# -> (09:41) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Substitute your object number (with #) for myobj
# 
# -> (09:42) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - I'm following... (verb added)
# 
# -> (09:42) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Now edit that verb to do a simple notify  "player:notify("testing");"
# 
# -> (09:42) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - how?
# 
# -> (09:42) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  and send the verb with C-c C-s or M-x mud-macro-send
# 
# -> (09:42) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i have mine..
# 
# -> (09:42) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  C-c C-v myobj:class
# 
# -> (09:43) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - verb programmed...
# 
# -> (09:43) From bp, to MOO:
# - I've got mine programmed
# 
# -> (09:44) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  player is a variable provided by MOO and contains the object number of 
# - the player on _that_ connection.
# 
# -> (09:44) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# -   @eval #75.class   ????
# 
# -> (09:44) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  So, if I call _your_ class verb I will get the output to my screen
# 
# -> (09:44) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Quick question, how do you escpae things in string?  Like how would I put 
# - a " in a string?
# 
# -> (09:44) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @eval obj:class()
# 
# -> (09:44) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  \
# 
# -> (09:44) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - gives me testing \n ==>0
# 
# -> (09:45) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - um, make that one =
# 
# -> (09:45) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Now. Lets put a protection on our versions of class()
# 
# -> (09:45) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - otay... (:
# 
# -> (09:46) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Oops.  I have a different object here.  :-)
# 
# -> (09:46) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  look at my verb with @list #8:class
# 
# -> (09:46) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - different object???
# 
# -> (09:46) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - the verb we created last nite w/ 2 args gives strange results..
# 
# -> (09:46) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Yeah, I'm object #30 on the older version of the core...here I'm 33.
# 
# -> (09:47) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  We are rewriting those verbs, wintermute
# 
# -> (09:47) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Did everyone look at my copy of class?
# 
# -> (09:49) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - egg-sellent... (:
# 
# -> (09:49) From bp, to MOO:
# - seen.
# 
# -> (09:49) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  I've put on access control to make sure that the person invoking it is me.
# 
# -> (09:50) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  try to call my copy of class with  @eval #8:class()
# 
# -> (09:51) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - hah
# 
# -> (09:51) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Gives me a "testing" ;-)
# 
# -> (09:51) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - so only player 33 can take a a look at it
# 
# -> (09:52) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  cute, darkwind. :)
# 
# -> (09:52) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - did it... try mine...  @eval #75:class()
# 
# -> (09:53) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - the mind boggles...
# 
# -> (09:53) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Now look at my code again
# 
# -> (09:54) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  play nice, darkwind. :)
# 
# -> (09:54) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  This time I hate it tell _me_ when someone tries to run my code
# 
# -> (09:54) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  err, have, not hate
# 
# -> (09:55) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  tostr(player) is needed since player is an object and I need strings for 
# - noitfy(), and verb is a variable populated by MOO to contain the _current_ 
# - verb name for error messages and the like
# 
# -> (09:56) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - argh... how do I look at it again?
# 
# -> (09:56) From bp, to MOO:
# - someone try mine. "@eval #32:class() "
# 
# -> (09:56) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - (another simple question)  Is ther a "not" operator for "in"?  So    can 
# - setup a "group" of users who can look at my class?
# 
# -> (09:56) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - could someone take a look at #60?
# 
# -> (09:57) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - no one?
# 
# -> (09:57) From bp, to MOO:
# - cool. I got notified who tried it.
# 
# -> (09:58) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - woohoo
# 
# -> (09:58) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Yes. The ! operator can be used with in
# 
# -> (09:58) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# - how do I look at your verb again, christian?
# 
# -> (09:58) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  @list #8:class
# 
# -> (09:59) From The Flamemaster [waiting for class], to MOO:
# -   @list that's it... okay...
# 
# -> (09:59) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Hrmmm. 
# 
# -> (09:59) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - if i C-c C-v #8:class - will it changedynamically as you change it?
# 
# -> (09:59) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  No. You will need to reload it
# 
# -> (10:00) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  want an example, darkwind?
# 
# -> (10:00) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Yes, since I keep getting syntax errors.
# *** (10:00) The Flamemaster has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# 
# -> (10:01) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -   look at my code again, darkwind
# *** (10:02) The Flamemaster has reattached ***
# 
# -> (10:02) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - how do I paste from the verb buffer into the lily buffer again?
# 
# -> (10:02) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  C-c C-s or M-x mud-macro-send
# 
# -> (10:03) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - <sigh>  I need to learn emacs better... got myself stuck in the damned 
# - verb program full-screen and couldn't get back to the discussion...
# 
# -> (10:03) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - Duh, thanks. :-)
# 
# -> (10:03) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - somebody try @eval #90:class()
# 
# -> (10:03) From Darkwind, to MOO:
# - (Considering I made that exact some modifiction on the core I'm running, I 
# - should be shot :-)
# 
# -> (10:04) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - cool :)
# 
# -> (10:04) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Cool, pioneer.
# 
# -> (10:04) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - just gotta be me :)
# 
# -> (10:04) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Get the name property now, pionner. instead of tostr use player.name
# 
# -> (10:04) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - yeah.  I'm working on it :)
# 
# -> (10:06) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - could someone eval #60.class?
# 
# -> (10:06) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - that works..
# 
# -> (10:07) From bp, to MOO:
# - try mine too. #32
# 
# -> (10:08) From bp, to MOO:
# - keen.
# 
# -> (10:08) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - me again.  #90
# 
# -> (10:08) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - nice bp! :)
# 
# -> (10:08) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - permission denied anda whole lotta tracebacks
# 
# -> (10:09) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - on mine?
# 
# -> (10:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Cool. Everyone look at Jordan's code
# 
# -> (10:09) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - yes, pio
# 
# -> (10:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  He's stepped on an neat thing.
# 
# -> (10:09) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - ah.  you can't see it if you don't have permits
# 
# -> (10:09) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  #90:class (use @list or load it up (i'd recommend loading it up)
# 
# -> (10:10) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Does everyone have his code up now?
# 
# -> (10:10) From bp, to MOO:
# - yes.
# 
# -> (10:10) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - huh?  I'm not in $admins????
# 
# -> (10:10) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - yes..how come i get permission denied tho
# 
# -> (10:10) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - cause I'm reading the password?
# 
# -> (10:10) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - but is it not your own password which you are reading?
# 
# -> (10:11) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - line 2: permission denied
# 
# -> (10:11) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - Pioneer owns the verb, tho...
# 
# -> (10:11) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - wintermute owns the property...
# 
# -> (10:11) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - ah
# 
# -> (10:11) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Jordan is right, he does not have permission to read the password, and as 
# - Flamemaster says he owns the verb
# 
# -> (10:12) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - ok..(brownnosers!!)
# 
# -> (10:12) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - ok, but I can @eval passwords of people other than me (Don't worry they 
# - crypt()-ed :) )
# 
# -> (10:12) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  However, Flame isn't quite right about that. 
# 
# -> (10:12) From Nance, to MOO:
# - (late comer)  I can't even do "@eval 1".  "(you have no default sendlist)"
# 
# -> (10:12) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - ooops... the parent's owner owns the property...
# 
# -> (10:12) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Do an @show on look at the output of @show #90:class
# 
# -> (10:12) From bp, to MOO:
# - thats cause Nance doesn't have the programmer bit set.
# 
# -> (10:12) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - but it's only permitted to the owner and the player...
# 
# -> (10:13) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - better, Harq?
# 
# -> (10:13) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Right. The property is only readlable by the real owner which means code 
# - that uses password must be owned by either the player or the system admin
# 
# -> (10:15) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - (have to go do some hw..be back for the 5:30)
# *** (10:15) wintermute is no longer a member of MOO ***
# *** (10:15) wintermute has left lily ***
# 
# -> (10:16) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  Time for me to get to work, so we'll pick this up at 5:30
# 
# -> (10:16) From Harq al-Ada, to MOO:
# -  feel free to play with your object and try new things.  if you should 
# - break this core drop me email and I'll reset it. :)
# 
# -> (10:16) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - ditto
# *** (10:16) Shiva has reattached ***
# 
# -> (10:16) From bp, to MOO:
# - try it  now Nance
# 
# -> (10:17) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - okay... I shan't be here, tho... but this is a good start...
# 
# -> (10:18) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# -  someone try #90:class() again, please
# 
# -> (10:18) From bp, to MOO:
# - well, other than the grammar, it works :)
# 
# -> (10:19) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - oops.  shoula been a period there
# 
# -> (10:19) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - that's what I get for adapting a string from another while being half 
# - asleep :)
# 
# -> (10:20) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - fixed.  take a look at it
# 
# -> (10:20) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - heh... well, I think it's time for me to go and play on Panix-lily... 
# - gonna create the staff accounts, even if I don't give them to them yet...
# 
# -> (10:21) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - later, guys!
# 
# -> (10:21) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - neat.  My mom's already got the client in her panix dir
# 
# -> (10:21) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - um, make that "later, folks...)
# 
# -> (10:22) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - Oh, Jordan... tell her it's now installed in /usr/experimental/bin/lily, 
# - but she'll have to use the -h option to direct it to RPI, 'cause it 
# - defaults to my server on panix3...
# 
# -> (10:23) From Pioneer [here I am!], to MOO:
# - yeah.  its easier just to leave the rpi-pointing client there until the 
# - servers are linked.  its not like she uses any other space on the system
# 
# -> (10:24) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - okay... no prob then... a load of people were using my client in ~ggold/bin
# - , but now that will just give them a message pointing to the new location 
# - and the new command line...
# *** (10:25) Harq al-Ada has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# *** (10:29) Darkwind has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# 
# -> (10:30) From bp, to MOO:
# - i'm working on a cute verb. give me a couple minutes. :)
# *** (10:34) The Flamemaster has detached ***
# *** (10:34) Pioneer has changed their blurb to [->shower] ***
# 
# -> (10:35) From bp, to MOO:
# - wonder if there is a good way to find out how many elements there are in a 
# - list.
# *** (10:48) wintermute has entered lily ***
# *** (10:48) wintermute has rejoined MOO ***
# *** (10:48) wintermute is no longer a member of MOO ***
# *** (10:48) wintermute has left lily ***
# 
# -> (10:49) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  length( )
# *** (10:50) wintermute has entered lily ***
# *** (10:50) wintermute has rejoined MOO ***
# *** (10:50) The Flamemaster has reattached ***
# 
# -> (10:51) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - anyone figure out how to set the banner?  (:
# 
# -> (10:52) From bp, to MOO:
# - uh, a long time ago. i'm an admin, remember? :)
# 
# -> (10:52) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - duh... you mean there's an admin command for it?!?  stupid me - I was 
# - trying to do it using MOO programming... (:
# 
# -> (10:53) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - $banner i believe
# 
# -> (10:53) From bp, to MOO:
# - yes.
# 
# -> (10:53) From bp, to MOO:
# - (It works just like /info set)
# 
# -> (10:55) From The Flamemaster, to MOO:
# - yup... duh... silly me...  thanks, atul... (:
# *** (10:55) The Flamemaster has detached ***
# *** (11:20) I [stuff] has entered lily ***
# 
# -> (11:21) From bp, to MOO:
# - any one want to try my verb? its not the best programming, but it gets the 
# - point across. "@eval #32:class()"
# *** (11:22) I has changed their blurb to [want my /groups transferred] ***
# *** (11:22) I [want my /groups transferred] has detached ***
# 
# -> (11:23) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - cool
# 
# -> (11:24) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i get 0 all the time tho
# 
# -> (11:25) From bp, to MOO:
# - 0 ?
# 
# -> (11:25) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - yes
# 
# -> (11:25) From bp, to MOO:
# - what do you mean, exactly?
# 
# -> (11:26) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - this is the output of @eval #32:class() i get "You are wintermute. The 
# - last message was sent to MOO\n=> 0"
# 
# -> (11:27) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - this is the output of @eval #32:class() i get "You are wintermute. The 
# - last message was sent to MOO\n=> 0"
# 
# -> (11:27) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - oops
# 
# -> (11:27) From bp, to MOO:
# - oh well, eval is going to give you that, and I dont know how to get around 
# - that.
# 
# -> (11:27) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - ofcourse, if you send a private message..it gets confused and doesnt 
# - update your last message send to property..or doesnt seem to anyways
# 
# -> (11:28) From bp, to MOO:
# - it does.
# 
# -> (11:28) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - well..i have been sending to MOO since i sent myself a prv message, and 
# - the output of @eval #32:class hasnt changed
# 
# -> (11:29) From bp, to MOO:
# - send me a private message.
# 
# -> (11:30) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - ok..so it updates prv messages only then..
# 
# -> (11:30) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - test..
# 
# -> (11:30) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - ahh..I got it..
# 
# -> (11:30) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - if you send to default sendlist, it doesnt seem to see it..if i type an 
# - explicit moo:message, it gets it
# 
# -> (11:31) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - test2 - pleaseignore
# 
# -> (11:31) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - ayep..that seems to be it
# 
# -> (11:40) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i should definitely get to a sun lab before the next thing begins..cant 
# - afford to switch between 10 line buffers w/ no mouse support in emacs
# 
# -> (11:40) From bp, to MOO:
# - yeah, no kidding. it sucks majorly.
# 
# -> (11:41) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - altho, i did pick up all i needed to in emacs..
# 
# -> (11:41) From Nance, to MOO:
# - cute
# *** (11:43) bp has changed their blurb to [back later.] ***
# *** (11:43) bp [back later.] is now "away" ***
# 
# -> (11:50) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i rather like @show.. :)
# *** (11:51) wintermute has changed its blurb to [shower | food | VCC] ***
# *** (11:51) wintermute [shower | food | VCC] is now "away" ***
# *** (12:09) Phil has reattached ***
# *** (12:43) wintermute has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# *** (12:43) wintermute [emacs-mode] has reattached ***
# 
# -> (12:45) From wintermute [emacs-mode], to MOO:
# - could someone try @eval #60:class()
# 
# -> (12:52) From wintermute [emacs-mode], to MOO:
# - test
# *** (13:18) wintermute [emacs-mode] has detached ***
# *** (13:23) Coke has reattached ***
# *** (13:24) Coke is now a member of MOO ***
# 
# -> (13:24) From Coke, to MOO:
# - 'la
# *** (13:26) Coke has detached ***
# *** (13:29) Shiva has idled "away" ***
# *** (13:33) Night Hawk has entered lily ***
# *** (13:33) Night Hawk is now a member of MOO ***
# *** (13:34) Night Hawk has been detached (possibly by accident) ***
# *** (13:47) Phil has changed their blurb to [ decades ] ***
# *** (13:47) Phil [ decades ] is now "away" ***
# *** (13:47) Phil [ decades ] has detached ***
# *** (14:04) wintermute has reattached ***
# 
# -> (14:26) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - hi
# 
# -> (14:26) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - last test
# *** (14:29) Nance has idled "away" ***
# 
# -> (14:29) From Nance, to MOO:
# - cute, but not original after bp's done it
# *** (14:29) Nance is now "here" ***
# 
# -> (14:30) From Nance, to MOO:
# - :}
# 
# -> (14:31) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i was actually trying somehting based on bp's code..it didnt work tho
# 
# -> (14:31) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - or works partially..
# 
# -> (14:48) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  How can I get my programmer bit switched on ? 
# 
# -> (14:49) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - whats your object #?
# 
# -> (14:49) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - i think any of us could do it..just dont know if its ok to do so
# 
# -> (14:53) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  73.
# 
# -> (14:54) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  I was programmer on this MOO for a while, before it went public, 
# 
# -> (14:54) From wintermute, to MOO:
# - u think harq would mind if i set it?
# 
# -> (14:54) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  wizard, and admin too, but that's a responsibility I don't want right now.
# 
# -> (14:54) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  Well, why don't you just wait for him to see this, and do it,
# *** (15:02) wintermute has changed its blurb to [somebody -stop- me! :)] ***
# 
# -> (15:06) From wintermute [somebody -stop- me! :)], to MOO:
# - the only thing that sucks abuot this emacs client is that i cant use the 
# - up arrow key to get prev. entry
# 
# -> (15:25) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  should be easy to write that key binding. :-) 
# 
# -> (15:27) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  (If you don't want to use M-n M-p, that is, 
# 
# -> (15:27) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  :-)
# 
# -> (15:27) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  (I was going to make you write it, and then took pity on you.) :-) 
# 
# -> (15:27) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  M-n is mud-next-command, and M-p is mud-previous-command, 
# 
# -> (15:28) From wintermute [somebody -stop- me! :)], to MOO:
# - i didnt know that..thnx
# 
# -> (15:28) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  There's also "C-c C-u" which is close to C-u in the lclient, 
# 
# -> (15:29) From Shiva, to MOO:
# -  (It however deletes the whole line, not from the cursor, to the beginning 
# - of the line.) 
# 
# -> (15:29) From wintermute [somebody -stop- me! :)], to MOO:
# - woohoo..this only gets better!